The Noble Pagan Forums - Psychic Vampires vs. Just Annoying People

Bear with me, I'm gonna try to say this right.

Now, it's my understanding that psychic vampires are people who intentionally feed on you (you thoughts, emotions and such) right?

I'm going to base my next statement/question with the assumption that I'm correct in the above description--if I'm wrong, please feel free to correct me or tell me to shut up.

Is it possible that annoying people are actually psychic vampires without knowing it?

I started thinking about this when a "friend" came over last week (I say "friend" because it's by default-when your kids have friends you have to put up with their parents to a certain degree; you inheret them).

Anyway, Elaine is one of those people. You know the kind--comes in like a tornado, verbally vomits ALL OVER YOU, and when they leave you are actually physically exhausted. Now, I'm assuming this isn't necessarily an empath thing, simply because my DH feels the same way when she leaves. I love him and all, but he ain't no empath.

Is it possible that, even unknowingly, she (or those like her) actually subconsiously feed off people? Does it take some type of skill to do that or is it an inherent capability people are born with?

I'm interested to hear what some of y'all think about this. I'd be willing to bet dollars to donuts that EVERYBODY knows someone like good ole Elaine.

Share your thoughts please!

Yes, it is entirely possible for people to be vamps without realizing it.

In fact, I'd hazard to say that 90% of us are at any given time as there is always something missing.

I dunno--I may be in the 10% minority then....I don't think I've ever fed off of anybody ('cept that time with Jello shots, but that's a different thread). I don't think I'd even know how.

So, then, do you think it's a "gift" or something you have to practice to "get right"? I mean, I can't imagine 90% of the population being "gifted", necessarily, nor 90% of them practicing to suck the life outta ya.

Did that make any sense?

aight, lemme put it this way:

Have you ever been upset at someone and argued your viewpoint / raised your voice?

I've got 4 kids--I do it ALL THE TIME.

I must really suck at it, cuz they don't listen....

When you do that, you create an energy vacuum within yourself, and you start drawing off the person you are arguing / angry with. If you see this happen with someone else yelling at their kids or opposites, if you watch the person on the receiving end, you'll notice one of two things, they'll deflate visibly and try to shrink away, or they'll push back and start feeding off the person who they are dealing with.

Neither is healthy, but we are human, and it is how we are. Unless you are consciously and actively avoiding doing this, it's gonna happen.

Now, if instead of feeding off the other person's energy when you are angry, you stop for just one second and look at their personal beauty (not physical, but the beauty that makes that person human) and then make a conscious effort to send energy to them instead of taking it from them, you might be surprised at your own words you speak and at the reaction you will get in return. I promise it'll be an interesting experience .

It's not easy to do, I know, but it is worth working on. I promise .

It's rare to make a conscious effort to be a vamp, it's our nature, it's how we were raised as a society, we do it without even realizing it because we, as human, have to dominate. That doesn't mean you can't change that though, but it is very very hard sometimes.

It's entirely possible I'm way overthinking this.

But anyway, (using Elaine as a case study) I see where you are going with this. You are saying that crazy drama people are just forms of vamps because they feed off the drama they create? Am I close?

I suppose I hadn't stopped to consider that there were different types of them.....hmmmmm. Interesting.

I remember reading something a while back from a "Proud Vampire" (yep, that's what he referred to himself as) and was proclaiming to be able to COMPLETELY shut people down mentally. I'm not 100% sure what that means, or if it was just written by a 16 year old who wanted to feel "speschial" or "yoonike".

I think I understand the drama vamps better than the people who do it on purpose--mostly because I can't quite comprehend what the purpose would be in the first place.

You posted before me...my bad.

I like the example you gave & I think I got a grasp of it...until I overthink it again and come back with something else (couldn't resist--he's cute!)

Exactly .

Don't get me wrong, the act of vamping off someone feels great. It's empowering. You get a temporary surge of energy from it. You feel good; and there are people out there that practice and hone this natural ability we have to use as a weapon.

But, it's only a temporary fix. It's kinda like a drug. There are ways, however, to get this "fix" of energy on a more permanent and healthy basis. If you give when angry (yes, it's kind of a backwards idea, but stay with me here), the recipient will feel this and open up their stores and will voluntarily give back. When this happens your energy levels actually increase because you both are now sharing instead of fighting for the energy. As you share, you give more, they give more, and it increases.

In fact, try it when conversing with anyone at all, no matter the circumstance ... continuing to use Elaine as the example. Next time she does this, don't throw your blocks up. consciously make an effort to send as much energy to her as she's taking. As you do so, focus on her inner beauty, and keep the energy flowing. Eventually she will fill up, she will start to overflow, and then she'll start to give back. I guarantee that she won't even realize it either, but you will know when the tide shifts .

You don't have to be empathic to feel the results of an energy vamp.

Ooooh I getta tackle this one!
YAYZ!

Okay where to start. Well technically anytime a person is vying for your attention inappropriately ( pouting, drama, angry, whatever) that is a type of pull or suck from you and your energy ( on a couple of levels really) and so in that aspect everyone has the potential to be a psy-vamp.

Next up on this list ( yeah it turning into a list) are the low energy people. These are the nice, quiet people that for some reason leave you tired when they leave from visiting. It's because they are not connected as well as everyone else to general energy and so pull on a level you can't see. One gal I knew was so blah that I forgot she was over and almost sat on her ( I didna see her believe it or not....I thought she was a pile of laundary).
Now these subconscious pullers come in two categories.
Ho hum passive ( like laundary gal) who make you feel tired looking at them. They are nice and there really isn't any drama in their lives nor is there any oomph to aspire to better situations.
Then you have the poke you passive. I say poke you because again they are not loud or anything however they have a tendency to feed off of any drama that occurs around them ( suck suck suck).
That's a bit different than the active PV's.

An Active PV ( Psyvamp) is someone who is actively taking from you ( energy wise). This can come in a few forms.
The spoon wielder. These people are fun because they like to stir the pot to get drama going and watch the fun unravel. Sometimes they take a more passive role (where they seem like they are just on the edge of the constant commotion) and sometimes they are more active in starting their crap. For the really pattern blatant types I call them Drama Tornadoes. There is ALWAYS something dramatic happening where they neeeeeed help. And just when one crisis ends another has already been lined up to take its place.
Neeeeeeeeeeeedy people. And yes. They know what they are doing. In the even that they do not.....it's no use in pointing it out to them. They will continue to do what works best for them in the way of sucking the life, soul,kindness from others. In essence your energy.
So what about really active PVs. Yeah they are out there ( the ones that feel "hmmmm you have energy I want to suck off of vlah vlah!") however running into them is a lot less likely than you would think. It takes a ballsy person to walk in, chat, have tea and leach the crap out of you.
In the event you know someone like that if at all possible cut out contact. If that is not possible then work on shielding or......choke em out with energy.
I know that sounds mean. It worked for me though..... I was crap for shielding and the guy was a self proclaimed PV and when I told him what he was doing he tried to act all innocent "Oh I didn't know I was doing that thing again". Yeah right buddy. So i figgered if I couldna block him then at least I could force feed him. you want it? HAVE IT OMNOMNOMNOM!!!
Needless to say I didna have problems with him again .

So yeah your dramaqueen mememememe aquaintance would fall under vamping because what she does is draw every ounce of viable energy in her viscinity right to her. And when she is full she leaves.
Is she aware of it?
I couldna answer that. You don't have to be empathic or pagany to be a psyvamp. Anyone can created drama or pull attention to themselves to make up for an energy deficit. Empaths and pagany people are only different in the regards that they have the potential to be actively AWARE of what they are doing ( or what they are being exposed to).

Does that make any sense?

I hope this helped some. And again this is all based off of my experiences and the types of people I have had interactions with over the years.

C.S.

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