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Re: McMaster vows to waste more taxpayer money with misguided legal battles
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Originally Posted by Macha Rising
You missed my point. My entire point is Religion and Government need to stay away from each other period. [snip!]
This isn't about singling out-- this is about keeping to our Amendments.
The text of the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution reads:
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Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
The government consists of people, who are allowed to practice whatever religion they wish. If a school says that one student group cannot form or use the school facilities due to their religious nature while other groups can, that is "prohibiting the free exercise thereof."
You are welcome to your opinion, but I think it is very dangerous to give government entities (i.e. schools) the power to limit student religious activities.
Re: McMaster vows to waste more taxpayer money with misguided legal battles
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Originally Posted by SanDamiano
The government consists of people, who are allowed to practice whatever religion they wish. If a school says that one student group cannot form or use the school facilities due to their religious nature while other groups can, that is "prohibiting the free exercise thereof."
You are welcome to your opinion, but I think it is very dangerous to give government entities (i.e. schools) the power to limit student religious activities.
What I'm saying is I don't think Religion AT ALL no matter who wants to practice, should EVER enter a school system!
I don't care if you're muslim, pagan, or christian! You're religion has NOTHING to do with your education in a public k-12 school setting.
Re: McMaster vows to waste more taxpayer money with misguided legal battles
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Originally Posted by SanDamiano
The text of the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution reads:
The government consists of people, who are allowed to practice whatever religion they wish. If a school says that one student group cannot form or use the school facilities due to their religious nature while other groups can, that is "prohibiting the free exercise thereof."
You are welcome to your opinion, but I think it is very dangerous to give government entities (i.e. schools) the power to limit student religious activities.
Though the Constitution says nothing about when and where students may hold their religious activities. In some circles people wonder why they need to hold religious activities at a school, if there are churches available for just such a purpose.
Re: McMaster vows to waste more taxpayer money with misguided legal battles
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Originally Posted by Ba of Osiris
Though the Constitution says nothing about when and where students may hold their religious activities. In some circles people wonder why they need to hold religious activities at a school, if there are churches available for just such a purpose.
Why hold any activities at all at a school? There are community parks where sporting events can be held, chess clubs could meet anywhere; honor societies could meet at a local library.
If it is ok for other student led groups to meet on campus, then you cannot discriminate against other student led groups just because you don't like them.
Again, this may just be a subject where we have to agree to disagree.
Re: McMaster vows to waste more taxpayer money with misguided legal battles
I can see the potential for this thread to go downhill, keep the debate up, it's good information and it's good to see other's viewpoints. Let's not go downhill with it though.
This post is not directed at anyone in particular, just want to remind folks that this particular subject is touchy.
Re: McMaster vows to waste more taxpayer money with misguided legal battles
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Originally Posted by SanDamiano
Why hold any activities at all at a school? There are community parks where sporting events can be held, chess clubs could meet anywhere; honor societies could meet at a local library.
If it is ok for other student led groups to meet on campus, then you cannot discriminate against other student led groups just because you don't like them.
Again, this may just be a subject where we have to agree to disagree.
I never said I wholly agreed with this position. I have mixed feelings about it. I never said I didn't like said groups. There is a sensitivity in the population about holding religious themed clubs held at public schools. There is a fear of attempted indoctrination and favoritism. Are these fears legitimate?
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